Carlson: “… He was definitely killed, I think… of course. There were signs of a struggle, of course. The surveillance camera, the wires was cut off. He just ordered to take food, had returned with his friends on the island of Katalina. There was no indication of this.
And then he has been found dead in several rooms. So it is impossible. Really seems clear that he was killed. Have you talked to the authorities about it?
Ultman: I have not talked to the authorities about it.
Carlson: “Um and his mother claim that he was killed on your orders.”
Ultman: “Do you believe?”
Carlson: “I- I’m fine, I’m asking.”
Ultman: “I mean … you, you just said that, so do you, do you believe?
Carlson: “I think this, Um, is worth seeing. And I don’t mean … I mean, if a boy comes out and accuses your company of accusing your company, I don’t know if this is true or not, of course. It should not be okay, and here too, and I should not be fine, and I should not be fine too, I should not be fine, and I don’t like it, and I don’t even think, I didn’t want to talk to your mother.
Ultman: “I offered, she didn’t want.”
Carlson: “So, do you feel that, when you know, when people look at it and they are like that, you know, this is possible. Do you think that what is happening here reflects their worries about what is happening here? People are afraid that it is …”
Ultman: “I didn’t do too much interviews where I was accused, such as …”
Carlson: “Oh, I’m not blaming you at all. I’m just saying that, his mother says this.”
